sorry to be repetitive, but please folks, post to your local state news groups (such as mi.misc!)! I have already been indexed multiple times by altavista for my postings and except for alt.pets. ferrets and talk.politcs.guns, I'm not seeing any other postings! Please folks - news is not permanent, but search indicies are (well, closer, that is). thanks beckers -- becki kain "words are just dust in deserts of sound." eldritch [Posted in FML issue 1975]