Hi Everyone, Well, after I sent in the posts to the fml and to the Kodo list, I got some replies. One of them basically told me to butt out. I am not trying to start a "rival" organization. I am not territorial, I have not seen anything in a public forum about it and when someone requested a person to start such an organization, I decided to do so. I enjoy doing things like this, which is why I started a ferret club in Houston. I have also had experience at writing grant proposals for non profits and helped to establish curbside recycling in my old neighborhood. I have been doing this type of work off and on for over 10 years. But some people seem to think I have another agenda. I don't. The only one I have is the one I state. The only thing I care about is that is does get done. So I will bow out. Maggie [Posted in FML issue 1971]