Hi Susie, I must say that I AGREE with you wholeheartedly about the Hartz stuff. I have been in the Tropical Fish business for 20 years and discovered within the first few months the "quality" of products they put out, also found the same with any dog/cat products. I have always been a fanatic with my fish and pets. Hartz is made for mass marketting, and for people who want inexpensive produts (as in "grocery store" types). You'd be hard pressed to find a Tropical Fish store that carries Hartz products, there's a reason for this. I suppose there is a place for all in the world of manufacturing out there, but I don't use anything by Hartz, and if my clients that I do maintenance for happen to buy Hartz fish food, I throw it out immediately!! There is hardly any nutritional value to their food at all. I fear the same is true of many of their other products and would absolutely NOT use anything they market for ferrets! Gads! the thought!!!!<shudder> Maybe I'll make someone mad here, sorry about that, but I do speak from years of experience, and a good example is the fish food, simply compare the ingredients to Aquarian or the better brands, you'll quickly see a difference. Hartz is a big company because they have been around so long and because the were "first" into the grocery store pet product market, and have kept a solid hold there. Ooops, I must admit I do buy a catbrush cuz it's so soft and the fuzzies enjoy that, but that's the only Hartz product I ever purchase. Itchy would never forgive me if I didn't keep his brush in his cage for him to scratch on :) Trish [Posted in FML issue 1909]