>you are refering to the color of the eye as a whole appears to be blue. >most DEWs and light patterns have blue irises. He does have blue irises, but his whole eye is a deep blue as well as the outside of the eye . If I can do it, I will post a pic at my home page if you would like to see. As for the breeder, Hoagie's is the only line that she doesn't have many generations back and lots of info. Her operation is first rate and has many of the most beautiful and healthy ferts I have seen and I have never seen anyone more dedicated to breeding healthy kits, How else would I have gotten a 5 pounder? I hope I didn't give the impression that she is doesn't know her stuff, if I have, I have done her a great disservice and would like to explain because that is not the case at all. This a new line she's been seeing out of a certain male and I was wondering who else is breeding this. If anyone is clueless it is me because I was so exited about getting Hoagie after being sans fert for soooo long. It's very distracting to have so many ferts running around to try and pick one and listen to everything she was telling me.. [Posted in FML issue 1852]