I noticed Sheena's way of getting a ferret to let well that wont always work I tried that a couple of times also and they just turned and chomped the hand that was trying to get her mouth to open. it is a good idea but beware they can be quick and yes the trick is try not to jerk away in reaction it is difficult but you'll get the hang of it Thanks just a friendly warning Shanon Mitch Callie(c) Karawak(Iguana) and of course the Den of thieves [Posted in FML issue 1764]