Casey and the smelly Toby: I was wondering where you live and if there are any shelter operators or clubs in your nearby area. Maybe someone with a lot of ferret experience could stop by and help out trying to figure out why Toby smells and how to help? If you don't have access to the web to look at STAR*'s club data base, post here the general area where you live and maybe FML'ers can put you in contact with someone nearby. Hands on experience may be what you need. To all those looking for cages - if you can hang on and wait for a ferret show in your area that is a good place to get an idea of what cages are availabe - and can be a good place to buy. I've only been to two but both shows had people there selling cages. The last one had a 3 level that had a little wire "roof" and was shaped sort of like a house. It may cost some time and mileage to drive to a show - but you can take the cage home, pay no shipping and if the cage is being sold by a shelter - you help the shelter out! (At the C.I.F.F. ferret shelter stand at the Indiana show last spring there was a guy taking orders for some really nice wooden and wire ones, really the deluxe of anything I've ever seen, from normal size to huge!). Mary, Boris and Giesela [Posted in FML issue 1708]