just have to post about how nice(the people) and cheap (the prices) the Jeffers catalog is. I just ordered a 5 lb bag of TF for $12.12 and laxatone for $2.75, which is MUCH cheaper than anything I can find around here. their number is 800-jefferes. open 7 days a week! (and I don't work for them) beckers -- becki kain "words are just dust in deserts of sound." eldritch [Posted in FML issue 1700]