RE: Vinegar and alcohol and cleansers... Angela suggested experimenting with mixing cleaners with vinegar to clean and deodorize ferret "misses". A chemist might give us details but I'd say DO NOT mix cleansers containing chlorine bleach with anything acidic like vinegar or lemon juice. It's quite likely to release a small cloud of chlorine gas which can burn throats and eyes and lungs. I once had a gallon plastic bottle of diluted "stop bath" (weak acetic acid, about like vinegar, used in photographic developing) disintegrate on me (plastic bottle was *very* old, the handle just fell off when I picked it up). It was all over the floor in the darkroom in the Federal Building where I worked. I called for maintenance to assist. The nice and very helpful woman was having trouble cleaning it up, so she grabbed her can of powdered cleanser with bleach (an Ajax / Comet type thing) and poured it all over the floor before I could stop her. This *giant* cloud of chlorine gas mushroomed up, choking us. They sent both of us to the doctor, and evacuated the small office next door. Granted you are talking about smaller quantities, probably less than a gallon, but be very careful. Didn't you ever see the "volcano" demonstration where you make a little hill of baking soda and pour a bit of vinegar in the center? Please be careful, you don't want to harm yourself or any of your wonderful l'il carpet sharks. DAYNA: How is Foggy doing? Some of us have followed his story with great interest; please give us an update. PAW PAW: ... your grump about the physicians sounds reminiscently akin to Arlo Guthrie's lament in his song, "Alice's Restaurant". MO' BOB: When you comin' back to Tucson to return all my socks 'n eat more Southwestern food? My husband's here now... I'd like to see you swipe *his* socks... ;-) ... you could show us all your latest home movies... especially the X-rated one with you and that good-looking female (ferret)... JodyLee Estrada Duek [log in to unmask] Faculty Development Specialist 520/626-2203 Division of Academic Resources 520/626-6707 U. of Arizona School of Medicine 520/626-4879 (fax) 1501 N. Campbell Avenue Tucson, Arizona 85724-5120 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ \|/ \|/ \|/ \|/ \|/\|/ \|/ \|/ \|/ \|/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [Posted in FML issue 1661]