Hello All! I am just now catching up on the weekend's FML and felt that as a shelter with ECE, that I should respond. How did we get it? Well, we're not sure, but the first case of the "greenies" was right after going to a ferret show in late 1993. To date, each ferret that has come into our rescue has exhibited the signs of ECE. I can only, therefore, conclude that ECE is a carrier-type virus. It is also extremely contagious. I do have to disagree with Mr. Killian because I have nursed many ferrets (about 70) through the virus and have not seen a "sickly" or chronically unhealthy ferret after contracting the disease, nor have I had an ECE related death. We did not have the choice of exposure/nonexposure to the disease, but I believe that this disease will not soon be treatable. I do advocate exposure at a young age, because the older ferrets have a much harder time if they are exposed. I don't have a problem exposing a ferret under the age of 3(I don't have as much room as Pam does and don't have an ECE free room) Any older ferrets are fostered out to a home that has not been exposed. As you may know chicken pox is very easy to get over as a child, but as an adult, shingles can be very dangerous. I also have to mention that the worst effects of the virus seem to come from a secondary opportunistic virus or bacteria, not the virus itself. Heliobacter, a naturally occurring bacteria in the stomach, seems to go into hyperdrive when a ferret contracts ECE, which in turn causes nausea, lack of appetite, vomiting, dehydration, etc, which begins the vicious cycle of ulcerations in the stomach/intestines, which is most devastating to an animal with a metabolism as high as a ferrets'. My latest recovering ferrets were treated for this and it did take 2-3 weeks of force-feeding, amoxicillian, phazyme,sub-Q fluids and carafate before they began to eat and drink on their own. A vet friend of mine has also said that she believes ECE is related to the corona virus in dogs, and like treatments do seem to help. As far as the shelter is concerned, I always stress the fact that the ferrets here have been exposed and any ferrets in their household WILL come down with the virus if they come out and look and especially if they adopt a ferret from me BEFORE they pass through my front door. Just because I was not given the choice, I will not make that choice for any other person. Anyone who has contacted me in regards to adoptions will affirm that statement. I do not fear this virus like I do distemper, because I have learned how to make ferrets survive this disease. It does take a lot of hard work, but I do not regret the time I invest in the furries. I always like to think that my "personal" ferrets must have the immune system of superman, because God only knows what they have been exposed to in the past 6 years, but all of mine (with the exception of Hope and Bandit, my insulinoma/adrenal babies) are exceptionally healthy at the ripe old ages of five-seven years. The young ones, who knows? its too early to tell with them, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed! I also want to pass on a warning about velcro "H" harnesses: a young couple came over to adopt a pair and they wanted to leave these harnesses on the ferrets even when in the cage. Well, the slippery fellow got halfway out of the harness and part of the velcro stuck to the carpet on the upper floor! He was hanging by his neck! Needless to say, I told them, NO VELCRO HARNESSES or NO FERRETS! Be careful out there! I hope everyone's ferrets are currently healthy! Lisa and Ernie & the Fab 16: Sasha the house ferret and resident psycho from Hell; Bruiser the magnificent and Pele, his consort; Yod He Vawhe who went to the "Show" and his evil twin, Dijon; Jezebel the morning mitt and Bandit the lion-heart; Misha the Huge and Rascal the thief; Hope the furless (and tail-less) wonder; Timon the Hisser and Nico the Man; Olufsen the swede and Marten the sneak; Tigger the cute and Trella the sly. [Posted in FML issue 1632]