Hi, Becca again. Sorry to post twice, (Perhaps BIG will clip it to my other? =) but something just occured to me.... right after I sent my last message in for the list. Does anyone out there have any experience with how high and how far their fuzzies can jump when they're determined enough? I completely forgot about this, but I'm going to be taking in either a cockatiel, some finches, or some lovebirds pretty soon and am wondering just how far away I need to hang the cage from my bed and my desk. I've taken into consideration that my waterbed, about 2 feet off the floor, isn't much of a runway where any animal suceptible to the forces of gravity is concerned (grin), but my desk may be a problem. I'd hate to have the little fuzzbut take a flying leap off it and attach herself to the cage, mentally torturing the birds to no end and even breaking inside. =( I'm assuming that if the cage is at least 3 feet out of their reach in both distance and height, that it should be okay? Oh, and another thing regarding birds. I really want to keep them in my room (also the ferrets room) if at all possible, but will it be too much torture for the fuzzy to see prospective prey right out of her reach? Just a few more rediculous questions on the part of me. My Most Sincere ALoha becca [Posted in FML issue 1638]