Hi All, I am proud to announce that I am now the mama to two precious, tiny (and I mean tiny!) 5 week old albino kits. One boy and one girl. And at the same time I just want to cry. These babies are too damn tiny to even have been weaned yet, and the lady said that their Mom came right back into heat and is pregnant again! Do you realize she must have taken them from Mom at 3 or 4 weeks then? I want to scream. She said this has never happened before and she usually breeds them only once a year when she has too. I am very unhappy to say this woman does breed her two ferrets every year and has kits to sell. She has only two breeders right now I believe and the mother's grandmother who is the albino of the bunch. Mom and dad were sables and very pretty. I assume she always sells them this young too. Had my Mom and I not asked a lot of seemingly innocent questions from 2 not very well informed people (he he he) we would have been told very little by her I think. I wish to God I had the kind of Money thru FANG to make her a deal that if she insists on breeding every year that she would sell me all the kits each time and I would care for them and get them fixed etc.... before adopting them back out. Plus maybe I could convince her to not even begin to wean from mother's milk until the age of 6 weeks. She just might go for something like that too. Since I cannot make her stop breeding (or can I?) I have a request from all of you. I need the address of where to order that breeder's digest you have talked about before. The only thing I can think to do is subscribe in her name and address and she will just start getting it and have no clue where it came from! I really think she seems like not too bad a woman but I know she needs a lot more info. on this even tho she has been doing it for many years. The cages with mom and dad are outside year round. She also apparently breeds rabbits, dogs, kittens, and God knows what else. It made me sick to see all the cages outside and the Rabbits under a tarp outside in the hot sun. I want to cry and am. Our summers can get to 103 degrees and our winters are pretty cold sometimes with snow and everything. I can't imagine these litle guys living outside in those conditions. Is this OK for them? Also she does not handle her breeders at all. Even when they are not in rut or heat she sounded as tho they are still not handled. How terribly sad for those poor two adults. I also need info on prolapsed rectums in babies again. My new baby boy has this condition. I have put some Colloidal herbal salve on it and hope it will help. Today upon getting home I knew they were real hungry (Damn, can these little guys bite hard,LOL!) The ***** said she fed them "3" lousy times a day and I saw that it was this canned crap that was not a good brand and there were hard chunks of dry food in it that they could not even eat. I tried to give the little girl it and she kept spitting it out because she scould not chew it up yet. I know they are undernourished and so I gave them some a/d canine feline paste/baby food mixture right away. It was all I had at the moment. Then Mom got me some canned Iams cat food and I mixed that in too. I also gave them some goat's milk to try and take the place of the mother's milk they should still be getting. I need more info. on what to feed my tiny son and daughter. I want them to get all the nutrition they could possibly need. I do not intend to even try dry food at all until a week more has passed but even then they will still be fed the soft mixture too. They are eating up a storm every 4 hours now since that is what I personally feel they need. Am I right to feed this often? I feel at such a loss since I have never encountered babies this d**n young!! By the way the little girl is now mine. I told my mom as we were holding them at the breeder's that she realized I had to keep this little girl to carry on in RACY's name and be my new albino daughter named FANCY! My Mom looked at me and said "As if I didn't already know that was coming!!). So I guess I wasn't fooling anyone all along<GGG> My little boy I was trying to pick a name for too. Because is is also albino I finally chose his name to be, CLOUD DANCING. Like the indian in Dr. Quinn on TV. After all he is all white like a cloud and soon will be dancing right? I worry about that prolapsed rectum tho so please help. Now when and how in the world do you train them how hard they can bite a human? I mean when these tiny babies latch on it is damn near worse than a full grown adult. OUCH!!!! Yi Yi Yi Yi Yi Yi!! Do I need to get this breeder's digest too do you think? Maybe I better if I ever have more tiny babes like this huh? So I guess I need two subscriptions now. Please all you breeders and anyone else out there please write to me and help me with all the info. I will need. I realize this will not be a piece of cake but I am devoted completely to my two babies and I want nothing but happiness and health for them always. Oh yeah the babies were in the house but who knows for how long they had been in there since ALL the other animals were outside in the heat. They were in a little dog carrier on wooden shavings only, no blankies no nothing! They had been given water only in with their food apparently. I have given them water in a small bowl and I hold them there and let them drink carefully. The food would drop in the shavings and my daughter was trying desperately to eat some and get a shaving off it at the same time. One last question, does this sound like someone I have a right to call the Humane Society or other authorities on? Does anyone know what I do to report her? Where exactly do I call etc..? All my adult babies are being just wonderful in their supervised visits with the tiny babies. They have immediately taken on the roles of Mommy and Daddy or Grandpa, Aunt, Uncle, whatever. They seem to love these tiny souls and clean them all over and everything. I am so proud of them all. Well I have taken far too much space here so please contact me in private so I get the messages as soon as I can. I need your advice right away and not later when the digest will come out. Plus now I am 2 FML's behind again:-( THANK YOU ALL!!!! I am waiting anxiously to hear from you. TNT! ******************************************************* * Kelleen Andrews & Her FANG GANG!!!! * * President and Founder of F.A.N.G. Shelter/Club * * (Ferret Association of Neverending Glee) * * 405 S. Orchard Boise, Idaho 83705 * * 208-342-7292 * * [log in to unmask] * ******************************************************* * I'll take a good animal over a good mate anyday! * * All they want is lots of love and great chow. * ******************************************************* [Posted in FML issue 1602]