Hi Ferret People, Lisa Baker's posting of 5/30 re dryer hose and another post (I forget who, I'm sorry) re krinkle bags, brought to mind my experiences with similar items. My sister works for a builder, and she brought me several good sized lengths of PVC piping, as well as the elbows to connect the pieces. I put them together, forming a great tunnel system; my guys used it once and that was that. Then one day I was in our local deli and looked up on the counter- a customer was picking up a six foot hero in a terrific cardboard box (about 6.5 ft. x 8 in.). Needless to say, their next order from the carton company included two extras for me. They didn't charge me because they were cheap. I have one lying on the floor (they tunnel through it, even push their toy balls through) and the other box I slant against a papa-san chair in my living room, and the boys climb on the chair and use it as a slide. The incline is not steep, but they love the ride. Sometimes they fight over who goes first, but normally they just line up and wait their turn. The deli now has a photo of my boys and the box hanging on their wall. The krinkle bag bugged them; I don't know why. But they love more than life itself to crawl into a supermarket brown grocery bag and wrestle and make krinkly noises all their own. By the way, they love the scratching noise they can make in the hero box tunnel. The bags are, of course, simple to get, and if you make a friend at a deli, you've got it made on the hero carton. Just a thought. I guess my guys have looked at my budget and are taking pity on mommy. What wonderful sons! Judi Lunn [Posted in FML issue 1586]