In regards to Bridgid's concern about her 3 ferts not using the litter pans-I have two 6 mo. old's, Betty and Chopper, and have had great success with the ferretone training method. What I do, is whenever I see either of them using their pan or newspaper, I give them lots of praise and a few licks of ferretone (linetone may be substituted-basically the same thing). I've been doing this since I got them back in Jan. when they were about 7 weeks old, and it only took about a month for them to figure out that when they "make poopie" in the right place, they get something really good. Chopper's still kinda on the 75% hit rate side of things, but Betty is around 90%, which is good enough for me. After a while, they'll figure it out and sometimes fake going, but I give it to them anyway, just to reinforce the fact that I want them to go where they're supposed to. Hope this helps, Chris, Betty, and Chopper [Posted in FML issue 1574]