Hi there (gonna try for a less controversial post this time :-)- I love the ideas of an FML meet and a potential shirt/badge id. I think BIG's idea for DisneyWorld is excellent....and he's right, airfares are getting less expensive. I think ValuJet has some good fares too, but I can't speak to their policies about animals on board. In addition to hotels and flying, camping out and driving to FL is always an option. Camping is another asset to going to FL....not many places where you can camp comfortably in December. I understand that some folks, for whatever reasons, wouldn't be able to go wherever the meet is held. Would it be possible for those folks to get ahold of a camcorder and record a little bit, just to say hi and introduce their fuzzbeans, etc? The videos could be mailed to someone going to the meet who could play them for the rest of us. That way, everyone could feel a little included in on the fun. The shirt idea could also be a good one, although a bit more pricey than a designed pin or the safety pin idea (although that's a pretty darn good idea, Ela, maybe that's why you're in MENSA <G>). I had a group of friends online that met every weekend, and one of them had a shirt designed for Xmas and gave it to each member of the group. It was pretty basic, grey with black picture and lettering (I won't even say what the drawing was--was way too silly). But it was effective, when you saw that shirt coming you knew who it was. Decisions, decisions....glad I don't have to choose :-). Bob posted about dominance- I had a suspicion that fert dominace went in that pattern....works that way in my house. There's not one head honcho, everyone has someone different that puts them in line if they get too uppity.. Ferret type creatures in art- I can't find the book now, but in "The Art of the Western World" (the one that companions the tv show), there's a Da Vinci portrait called "Lady with the Ermine". Anyway, the ermine in the picture bears a pretty good resemblance to an albino fert, minus the defined musculature on the front legs and the slightly pointed nose. It still amazes me (and it's not hard to amaze me<G>) how similar some of the ferret relations look. I saw the Dateline with the minks that had the mad cow type disease, and it was almost like looking at my Marshmallow. Minus the thick coat though :-). If anyone else knows of any art that shows ferret type creatures, please feel free to email me with the info. It's kind of nice to be able to show non ferret type folks art that has ferrets or their relations in it. IMHO, it's hard to maintain that ferrets and their kind are dirty rodents when you see them in art pieces done by well known artists. Laura, Gatsby, Saffy, and Marshmallow [Posted in FML issue 1530]