I have 5 dark-eyed whites - they have burgundy eyes rather than black, so they are called dark-eyes. Everyone tells me they're rare, but we seem to have a lot of them here in Rochester/Brockport - a breeder a few years back had litters of dark-eyed whites, but she was a poor caretaker and many of her litters died. It's too bad, because she had beautiful show-quality ferrets but didn't understand how to take care of them. Generally, silvers will turn to white - not always, but most of the time they will - as they get older, they lighten up - if you saw pix of my whites when they were kits, you'd never recognize them as the same ferrets. Libby is a silver I bred to Duss-T, my cinnamon/champagne (depends on which judge you talk to, and she had 2 litters of silvers with only 1 cinn/champagne, and 1 of those silvers is totally white except for a light silver ring around his tail (he'll be 3 in July). These guys are all big - over 4 lb, and the girls are chunking too, weighing in at 3 lb. Debbie Riccio WNYFLFA Rochester, NY [Posted in FML issue 1526]