Hi all, I, too, thank those of you who've lost your ferrets for sharing it with us. You truly paint a picture for me of your treasured pet. I feel that I know them and share your sorrow of their passing. I have five and have found that my girls are my stumpling block to integration. They are vicious in their attacks. The boys scruff the necks but don't break the skin the way the girls do. When I see poop and pee as well as blood....that's a sign that intgration won't come soon. It's like a birth, though, you soon forget the pain and keep trying!! I've definitely given up on one little girl, though. As soneone posted...some will never allow peaceful integration. Re water bowls, containers. We've found some cage bowls that have pegs that stick through the bars...and a bar is placed over the pegs on the outside of the cage...and then these big plastic washers are screwed onto the pegs...thus holding the water container securely in place. They sure solved our waterbowl problem with our surfer while he's in his cage. We're looking for more for all our critters. I've written before how we solved the problem of the moving waterbowl in the kitchen. We glued it to a 10 x 10 platform (you could use wood..we used some fake heavy marble stuff) and it's on a heavy duty rug so it doesn't move at all. When they drink...they're standing on the platform so it can't tip or be moved. We did the same for the food...My husband came home one morning to science diet completely covering every square inch of the kitchen floor! Thanks for the post on Ferrets at the beach. I was thinking of taking them because I know how much they love to burrow in it. Now I know better! Maureen and Dolittle...the doctor who loves to push bowls around Deany......Blaze beauty and old man Baby Girl..look out boys Slinky.....Queen Bee who won't tolerate anyone else in her kingdom Willie.....laid back lover [Posted in FML issue 1524]