Baby Gates: When we first moved into our apt. last April, I bought two baby gates to keep the guys out of the bedrooms and kitchen. The effectiveness of the suckers lasted about a month and that was only because George was only 2 months old. Now both my guys can leap over the gates in a single bound. About the only good the gates have is to make enough noise that I can begin my dash to catch the guys before they get into trouble. In fact, I think that I have more trouble getting over those gates than the ferrets do. Their favorite trick is as follows. On the few occations that I have to take the guys to work with me, I put up the gate. The guys will hang around the gate until the phone rings, and then they are off. They know that I can't come and get them since I am now on the phone. So they have free run to freak everyone out until I am done with the call and can do recon. The best suggestion that I have heard is to get a piece of plexiglass instead of a baby gate. If you get one about the height of a gate, you will be able to get over it, but the ferrets will not be able to . t is just too darn hard to put on the suction cups and scale the plexi. Good luck! Katie -- Katie [log in to unmask] Technology Information Coordinator/Lecturer Carroll College (414) 524-7682 ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ "All these years I'm still here And so confused But I can finally see how much I stand to lose All these years" --Sawyer Brown "All These Years" [Posted in FML issue 1516]