CYNTHIA JEAN, et. al. The vet that helped with Timmy's recovery over a year ago, Dr. David McCluggage, is at 303-702-1986, in Longmont. He still refers in emgy to the Alpets clinic, where he started at, in Boulder, at 303-499-5335, at 5290 Manhattan cir. They are the only clinic I've heard of with vets on 24 hr. duty, not just on call. Pam's web page with the database listing of clubs, vets, and products, & FAQ available for download is: http://www.optics.rochester.edu:8080/users/pgreene/central.html Lots of useful stuff there! Have fun, Gary & the gang Violence is not strength, Compassion is not weakness. From Camelot. [Posted in FML issue 1508]