From: Lynn <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Neutering Males Affects Adult Size? I can not tell you about a single ferret that was allowed to grow up both neutered and unneutered (yeah smart-aleck) but from judging ferrets and stwearding while others judge ferrets it is pretty easy to tell early altered ferrets from late altered ferrets. Pet store early altered ferrets are smaller and less developed than late altered ferrets and these in turn show less solid development from whole breeding animals. I'm sure other breeder/judges could tell you the same thing. I do not know of a formal study on this subject. Subject: Poultry First, Why? Poultry or other meat is a better terminology. But with the much lower cost of poultry compared to other meat sources is why poultry is the choice. Fish is often inexpensive but not favored as much by ferrets so it isn't used as much. You would probably be surprised at how often a polecat could catch a bird. Chickens are more like quail and other running bird than sparrows and other flying birds. From: "Charlene M Lowe (Charlene Lowe)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Canadian Ferrets and ECE I've heard but lend little creedence to Canadians being specifically more resistant to ECE and the similar Canadian ferrets are the source of ECE. I'm not saying either is impoassible but the genetic differences between Canadian and American (from the US but USian sounds funny) are so slight that it seems unlikely. If the virus came from Canada it could mean that Canadian ferrets are more likely to have been exposed and built up a tolerance type immunity. From: [log in to unmask] I had to comment that I'm glad to see this "wonderful" name on the list. I have no idea who you are and if we are related somehow. There is another 'former' Killian in ferrets also. Welcome. From: Bryan Archell <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Cleaning Ears, Deafness (unrelated) Deafness in ferrets is unfortunately not uncommon. Especially in pattern variants of the mitt, blaze and pandas or the champagne (or sinnamon) color. Different reasons. The Waardensburg gene is linked to deafness (apparently there are variants of the Waardensburg and some are not linked to deafness) in several species including foxes, rats and humans. The champagnes are linked to deafness apparently for the same reason albino humans are. Albino ferrets are a primary gene type unlike in humans but the dilutes like champagnes are not as albinism is not a primary trait of humans. BUT the bottom line answer for the real question is that it really won't matter very much to your ferret. You won't be able to call a deaf ferret with a squeek toy but it shouldn't affect the general health and life of the ferret. Remember that the defensive mechanisms associated with hearing won't be there so say a barking dog that might injure the ferret won't be heard. We have ferrets that I think might be deaf. Kind of hard to check since they are very good at ignoring sounds they don't 'want' to hear. But please don't try to test hearing by tossing your ferret in the air. This silly method has been passing around the net but is not a hearing test, it is only a balance test that really accomplishes nothing. From: Chuck Renaud <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Corn cob bedding/Shoulder-training plea for help I'm not happy to hear this. We had stopped using corn cob litter ourselves but now don't want to recommend it. I would really appreciate (private to reduce FML clutter) more information and details on this. Not all ferrets want to be shoulder trained. I'm not sure you can expect all ferrets to want to ride up there. From: Kristy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ermine Ermine are winter colored weasels - not sure of the exact species of weasel. All (or at least most) mustelids seem to have similarities in behavior as they originally filled similar niches in the natural world. I wouldn't recommend wild animals as pets though if anyone was thinking that. bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferrets [Posted in FML issue 1467]