I wanted to let you all know about my first (and probably last) experience with a collar and a leash for ferrets. KoKo, sporting a spiffy new neon green collar with a jingly-jangly bell, kept trying to slip the obnoxious thing over her head, and ended up getting it stuck in her mouth.. this of course made her gag and choke so I would take the collar off, snuggle with her and tell her it was going to be ok, and put it back on... with the same results. How tight is tight enough? How do you measure it? I don't want to choke her, and I fear leaving it on her at night.. anyone have any ideas? Lotsa DooKS! +++---+++---+++---+++---+++ [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] +++---+++---+++---+++---+++ KoKo $.02: "You like this chokey-thing so much, YOU wear it!" [Posted in FML issue 1441]