Debi, Please, dear God, get those ferrets out of your boyfriend's house, I'm begging you. Call the SPCA or Humane Association and they can help you. I can't emphasize it enough--those precious babies need to get out of there and be properly taken care of. It sounds to me as if Logan is severely stressed. I'm telling you, animals do not defecate on themselves unless they are extremely distressed. Please help those babies--don't let them die!!!!!!!!!!!!! We're all here for you if you need us. Please save them!!!!! Steph Sophie, Queen Ferret of the Universe Marty, Gentlest of Gentleferrets Jake, Spasmoidal Super-Cutie [Posted in FML issue 1400]