Re: Ferret Outfitters >When I ordered a catalog from ferret outfitters it took almost 2 1/2 months >for it to get here, I had almost given up when all of a sudden there it was. I've always had good luck with them. I've ordered a couple of times and gotten the things in around 2-3 weeks. Pretty standard mail-order timing. Maybe I've good luck since I'm a "local". I only live about an hour's drive away from Red Creek where Ferret Outfitters is located. ;) Re: Biting/Socialization I saw someone here talking about having a little girl who's quick of tooth (ie she bites). Hijinx and Atlas spent 2 months in an aquarium at a pet store. Socialization when they came to live with us was nil. We've had them for about 6 months (they are 9 months old now) and it took me 4.5 months to start to make a change in Hijinx. It was hard to make a change because I couldn't find the right method nor amount of positive/negative reinforcement for her. Nothing that worked for Squirt or Pippi worked on her. What finally worked was bopping her on the very end of her nose when she bit and keep offerring a hand and bops until she didn't bite. When she didn't bite any more she would get cuddled. She's really becoming a loving ferret...she actually notices and pays attention to what we are doing now. Before she was completely oblivious. Atlas......he's got a "love nip" that has to go since it's becoming harder and harder. We had our hands so full with 'Jinx that we put up with some love nips from him. We've been discouraging the nips only to have a pouty stand-offish ferret as of late. Although Atlas is not the brightest of ferrets (a ferret of brawn not brain), he is as emotionally sensitive as Squirt (who is too damn smart for his own good). None of the methods used on the others seem to be right for him so it's back to the drawing board, so to speak. It's my opinion that the real trick is to find what your ferret responds best to. Do some experimenting with both positive and negative reinforcemnt to find what's best for you. You know your ferret is spoiled when you let them bite you as part of no-nip training. ;) -kim,mike,squirt (King of All He Surveys), pippi (pouting because atlas took her #2 spot), atlas (weighs 5 times as much as pippi), and hijinx (my little love-y girl) Kimberly Burkard | _ Everything I needed to know in life, I Eastman Kodak Company| _____C .._. learned from my ferret: Rochester, New York | ____/ \___/ Frolic and dance for joy often, have [log in to unmask]<____/\_---\_\ no fear or worries, and enjoy life. [log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 1364]