Debbie says there's another Cecil out there, too? Rats. OK, our next fuzz will get a randomly-selected alphanumeric designation, selected by having him/her walk on the keyboard. See if anyone copies that! Hah! :) As for using peroxide/oil/water/alcohol for ear cleaning - the advice regarding using commercial cleaning solutions is good - I went out and got some Epi-Otic yesterday. I can't for the life of me think why I assumed we had to use some household product, especially as we use ferret shampoo, ferretone, and other ferret/pet products. Mental breakdown, I suppose. Thanks for the input, and I'm sure the beasts will also appreciate it this weekend... Stan, Terrie & Jen, with Mookie, Psycho, Cecil & Cocoa in Toronto [Posted in FML issue 1327]