Hi Wayne, Another idea to throw at you, My vet showed me a nice way to clip the fuzzies nails. If you have two people that is. Have one person hold them by the scruff of the neck, they will yawn a few times, get nice and relaxed and it makes clipping SOO easy. Just something that works great for me. Good Luck...Kimberly, Elliott & Elise :) [Posted in FML issue 1291]