Just another comment on Ferrets that are not willing to be held. My Renegade also doesn't particularly like to be held. He will tolerate it for awhile right after he has gotten up but still acts fidgety. As for when he is tired not a chance. He will play and play till he gets restless and starts to get into trouble more often, then keep playing / getting into trouble till he gets put in bed then finally crashes. [Posted in FML issue 1254]