Okay Bill get ready to insert your little moderator's note at the end of my letter also!! I really feel that you were out of line with your editorial comment that you attached at the end of Jeanne Stadtmiller's letter the other day. If you already haven't figured it out, there is a group of our club members who read the FML. We used to copy off the FML to share with our club members so they could read all the educational articles and funny stories and ferret antics. Unfortunately, times have changed. The FML has become a base for certain viewpoints, yet several opposing viewpoints are always criticized. Take, for example, Pat Nothnagle's note. You said to let you know if you missed something. Yes, you did. Rudy the Ferlosopher states Pat's attitude on ECE as "something a little care can fix." No way did she say anything to that effect! She is one of our clients at the animal hospital - and I can personally testify to the anguish and heartbreak Pat went through during the ECE two years ago. And how Pat does not let her guard down in the shelter for one moment. And then Rudy says that anyone who says "something a little care can fix" and "damns MF on an unproven allegation of bad genetics is guilty of first degree hyprocrisy." Isn't that "NAME CALLING"??? Isn't she allowed to feel that way based on her knowledge of the STAR Cancer Survey results, and her own heartbreaking experiences running a very active shelter for 8-9 years? He also quotes her attitude as "well, my problem is minor and therefore OK, while their's are serious and, therefore bad"... In NO WAY did she say ANYTHING in her post to reflect that attitude. Why should he be allowed to say that it is??? And then, when Jeanne Stadtmiller comes to her defense, is SHE reprimanded for a "personal attack", while Rudy is allowed to say all of the above with no problem. Is it because they are "regulars" that they are allowed to get away with this - whereas people who only seek to right an injustice are disciplined? I think you should read Rudy's post again - I think you'll find quite a few things you missed. Yes, I agree that you can not hear intonations on a keyboard... nor do you know the personalities or "internal politics" involved in the various personalities you are responsible for moderating. Where some of us already do...and recognize the attempts at discreditation for what they really are. Spiteful and completely uncalled-for. I know it's a tough job - but it appears that you are moderating "one-sidedly" and I personally feel you owe Jeanne Stadtmiller an apology. How about if we can get back to what the FML was originally intended for - information and sharing ferret fun. You can post this or no - I really needed to vent my anger about what I feel is an unfairness. I hope Pat comes back to visit again. I think she could be helpful here with all her experience! Mary ____________________________________________________________ / / / Insert moderator's note here (GGGGG) / / / /__________________________________________________________/ [Moderator's note: This is a difficult one because I don't want it to turn into a never-ending debate. In short, I don't agree there's a double standard here and feel that perhaps the group of people you refer to has misinterpreted some of the statements "the ferlosopher" and others have made. Perhaps his post in this issue, as well as other posts, will clarify things. If they don't, I respect your opinion even if I don't agree with it, and I'll send a few comments offline rather than clutter up the list. In fact, I respect the opinion of all the FMLers - I think this is a really great group. And, I too, hope Pat posts again. But there are over 1100 subscibers reading the FML and there are going to be disagreements. I am upset though that some folks feel there's selective criticizing going on... I thought I insulted everyone! BIG] [Posted in FML issue 1247]