>6/24/95 Timmy's recipe recall of ingredient: In a Recent conversation with Dr. Tom Willard of Totally Ferret, he stated that long term administration of "desiccated" or low temperature dried liver can leave some sterols (not steroids) in an active state that could have negative effects over time. This is not the case with cooked liver as he adds to Totally Ferret, and the Kal Kan Whiskas Kit Nips contain. Liver has been viewed by some DVMs' as containing yet to be identified specific essentials for optimum ferret health, thus a necessary part of an optimum diet. Since I now feed the recipe to all my crew of eight an a daily basis, I want to take a conservative stance while still providing optimum nutrition. I also have omitted ingredients that are costly for a non critical or maintenance condition, such as the Immuplex and KMR. Also omitted is the Deliver 2.0 high caloric suppliment as his weight is quite satisfactory. Timmy is very bright of eye and attention, playing energetically with the other fuzzies, his coat is clear and deep of color, and soft and full. In short, he has never looked or behaved better. He still likes to be held while he eats the recipe, and will while being held will eat twice what he will on his own, and free eats the Whiskas Kit Nips. He and a couple of others have some enlargement of lymph nodes under the front arms, so a couple of weeks ago I added garlic to the food, then switched to Kyolic brand liquid garlic as his breath was something to behold! The liquid garlic is aged like sherry for some 2 years, so is much less pungent. I have avoided Rx antibiotics thru its' use myself, and it will knock down a sore throat in 24 hrs. So here is the current recipe that I multiply by five for my eight furry kids. I reserve about 3.5 oz. for Timmy's morning meal in the refrigerator., and usually feed everyone in the late evening & let them all play for a couple of hours until tired. I'm using turkey rice rather than chicken vegetable as though they will eat either, I have read of several cases of allergies being developed to chicken. I feel that the reports of contamination common in chicken processing and the over use of drugs in the industry. can trigger allergic reactions over time. Over exposure of many items have been found to trigger allergic reactions in humans. There is much debate and experimentation on the subject of what to feed and what to eat ourselves. I view this as good, and a sign that we are using more intellegence than perhaps previous generations in choosing our diet. Watching for positive and negative effects if/as you change diet will give valuable feedback for future reevaluation. I hope the knowledge gained thru Timmy's experience and recovery from his "terminal" lymphoma may be of benefit to other little fuzzies. There is nothing more rewarding than watching a recovery from deaths' door, and the returning of joyful pooks! Respectfully, Gary Holowicki 75464,741; [log in to unmask], 800-209-1071 Timmy's recipe, 6/24/95 1 jar Gerber Turkey Rice baby food 3 cc PWS 2000 herbal tonic.... (contact me for info., source of 38 herbs & fruit extracts) 1/2 tsp. clover honey 1/4 tsp. Kyolic brand liquid garlic 1/2 tsp. Ferretone 1cc Pet Tinic liquid vitamins 1/2 tsp. Lewis Labs Brewers' yeast.. (best tasting brand I've found) 50 mg. Vit. C 6 - 10 mg. CoQ 10.. (hard to measure such a small ammount) 1 tsp. reverse osmosis purified, distilled or Everpure filtered water [Posted in FML issue 1239]