Been spying for a couple of days, and this is my first post to the FML. Andi and Todd, Your post about the biting ferret at the pet store perked my ears. My wife, Charlotte, and I had almost exactly the same experience. We frequent a very good, caring and ferret-friendly pet shop in the Chicago area. We went in one day just to pick up some supplies. The owner knows us, and knows that we have experience with ferrets, and told us she had a special project child she would like us to look at. It was a 3 or 4 month female albino (from Path Valley we suspect) that another pet shop had sent to her (the shop owner) with the message "help." This babe had been mistreated -- subjected to irrational yet creative and ultimately cruel punishment at the other pet shop, and had almost never been handled. The result of which was that she would lock onto anything that came near her. Well, she had the sharpest damn teeth and the most tenacious damn grip of any ferret I have ever seen. Scruffing and/or tweaking her only made her dig in harder. She drew blood on the staff and on me in the shop. The owner knew she could not let this ferret got to just anyone, and said that she would let us have her for whatever we thought was fair. We were not looking for another ferret at that time. We had three, and thought our hands were pretty full already. But there was this poor little girl, who had never known love and a happy home, and we had the feeling that if we didn't take her, that eventually her situation would turn ugly. We offered $40.00, they said fine, and off we went for home. I made up my mind that I was going to win her over with love, and believed the other three ferrets would help whip her into shape too. I handled her whenever possible, speaking softly to her, letting her know she was safe and that I wasn't going to leave her. Yes, she drew blood for a couple days. I would tweak her nose and firmly say "NO" when she bit, but then continue to hold her. After three days, the only time she would bite was when I put her down. I had felt earlier, but felt more strongly now, that when she locked on, it was not with the intent to hurt, but just to say "please don't let me go." After a week, we completely trusted her with us. Now, almost a year later, she is the cuddliest ferret in the known universe, and wants nothing more than to be held and snuggled. She has her quirks -- she is high strung, panics and flees much more readily than the others, hisses at them when playing, and lord help your finger if it gets in the way when you give her a treat. But she has such a great spirit. None of the other ferrets -- not even our oldest male, Nuvak "The Enforcer," was ever able to establish dominance with her in the customary "drag you around by the back of the neck" way. Uinta (that's her) just refused to be dominated. It has, all in all, been a great experience. We feel like we saved her life, and gave her a loving and happy home. In turn she has given us constant laughter (her nickname is "The Spaz"), and oodles and gobs of her own special brand of love. So, I would encourage you to try. Whatever happens, it's obvious that you, more so than that shop owner, have the ferret's best interests at heart. But by the same token, they should be willing to be flexible on price with you. perhaps they just need to be "sold" on the idea. Here's hoping you can work it out. Good luck, Chuck Charles S. McCarthy "Vox clamantis in deserto" - E. Abbey Northwestern University Office of Summer Session and Special Programs 2115 North Campus Drive, Suite 162 Evanston, IL 60208-2660 ph (708)491-7404 fax (708)491-3660 [Posted in FML issue 1225]