Two of our kids are experiencing disturbing behavior. Ernie (male, sable, 4.5y) and Grover (female, albino, 4y) are both doing weird things when they try to eat. I haven't noticed it in Ernie lately but my husband has; I saw Grover trying to drink this morning and last night and everytime she took a drink she shook her head vigorously and clawed at her mouth. Jay says he has seen Ernie do the same with foam at his mouth. I read the insulinoma faq and this seems to be the only symptom close to that disease. It's very difficult to notice if Grover is "spacing out" since she has always been that way. She will come into the room lie down on the floor and just stare. I seem to think it's due to her eyesight being poor. We don't notice the same in Ernie. A couple months ago, we had a very strange episode with Ernie. He was running around clawing at his mouth and foaming. He seemed to get a little better and then went to lay down. When I went to check on him he was awake and then went running again. I gave him some "laxatone" (actually standard cat hairball remover) and that seemed to help a great deal. This happened twice in a month period. Now we are noticing these other symptoms. The only other strange thing going on is that our youngest, Elmo (male, butterscotch(?), 2y) has had diahrea for a week. Our vet says that he isn't dehydrated and it obviously isn't the green diahrea since the other two do't have it and let it run its course. He seems fine otherwise. So, there ya go. I realize it's hard to diagnose over the net but any suggestions I can take to my vet here? Thank you. Oh, yeah. Jay is going home at lunch to check on Grover's teeth to see if it isn't a cavity (the cold water hitting it). Pamela K. Barber Flagstaff, AZ [Posted in FML issue 1200]