Renegade has yet to play with the curtains in the tub, I put a group of bricks in the base of the tub on the shallow end. Though he did find my 3" thick piece of foam that I had used to squish the cushions on the couch together. I had thought that I had enough pillows pried in front of it to keep him away from it, wrong I was. During lunch on Tuesday I went home to play with him for awhile he managed to squeeze through the pillows and get to the foam. By the time I had found where the little gopher was hiding out he had dug a 2 1/2" diameter hole halfway through the foam, little pieces of this foam everywhere. Thanks Diane for the relief that rocket has shivers at bath-time also. Thanks also go out to Laura for her concern about supervision. I had thought of the fact that I didn't mention that in my post, after I had sent it. My suggestion would be to let them play where the dead balloon can be snatched and thrown out as soon as they pop. I let him play with the balloons only on the couch while I am watching reading or TV, that way as soon as Renegade kills a balloon I can grab the little pieces while he is busy looking for where the big balloon went. Thanx every so much for the concern. I fortunately do know of the risk that one must take into consideration while owning a ferret being owned by a ferret. I did much research before purchasing my friend including reading the Ferret FAQ and browsing the various WWW sites, something that seems like a prerequisite in my eyes. No flames intended. Lastly...to Rob Broadhead, Renegade has a bowl, as opposed to a bottle, that I let him get a drink from when he is playing. He, since the day I brought him home, has at a minimum done the nose submarine once a day. I not being medically trained may be wrong but you may want to watch it near the epsom salt. His may be slightly different than your K2 was, he practically stirs the water with his face. This will go on for 10 to 45 seconds followed by the shake of water all over the place, then back to the dive this has go on for up to 10 minutes at one time. Remember this is the same Renegade that shivers during bath-time...Silly! Sorry for the length...I type these at work and bounce back to the message for hours before I send it..Thus I just keep rambling on.... Regards from DeWayne (Dewey) and Renegade [Posted in FML issue 1190]