In case Donna and Warren Olsen are behind or something.... An email address for Ferret Paws Rescue (the products are sold to support their shelter) is: [log in to unmask] SnailMail at: 340 Logan Dr., Hatfield PA 19440. Voice at: (215)855-5167. Call or write for a catalog. These are really good folks with some really neat stuff. I see them at every ferret show and usually get something from them. And Warren, Lindsay says "Hi!" bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferrets [Posted in FML issue 1142]