Gary writes: <[Remember companies and the fda make money by lying to the public, look at the <poisioning of people the AMA & fda do with the cancer fraud! Easy Gary...you're forgetting a few things. Not that I'm a big fan, but MD's and pharmaceuticals are under more scrutiny than NASA & Hillary Clinton combined. Holistic guys can claim anything; scientific guys can't claim squat until they get corroborating evidence from their peers. It takes time, and then the FDA must bless. Experiments -- particularly biological ones -- need control groups, empirical evidence, and duplication before their results are considered valid. If you can produce results with Burdock root, Sheep sorrel, & Slippery Elm, then more power to you, but it's of little benefit to the rest of us if you're the *only* one who can. I'm sorry that your brother didn't respond to treatment; cancer is a tricky disease / affliction / condition no matter how you categorize it. But promoting the idea of conpiracy between the AMA and the FDA is a bit paranoid. Most MD's are willing to release a terminal patient when conventional methods of treatment do not show results. I agree that the FDA is a bit slow in accepting new drugs and treatments. It's the old "once bitten twice shy" reaction; maybe the Thalidomide thing. To Heather Jane and the following post: <I thought I would try the watering device again as there was no place to attach a water <bottle. Well, one day I went in to check on him to discover about an inch of water on the <floor! Twinkie had lapped at the water with his paw until the entire jug was empty. Yes, I can picture your guys now. What a bunch o' little weenie heads. They sure can subvert good intentions, can't they? The self-feed waterer referred to has a tube-end with a couple of ball bearings that prevent air return, which creates a vacuum above the water in the bottle; there's no stand ing water for them to play around in. It sounds like we're calling the same object by two different names. How so that you have no place to attach a water bottle? If your cage is more than a foot tall, then there's gotta be a way. Hate to spoil Twinkie's fun. [Posted in FML issue 1136]