Hi Mike. I have some phone numbers that you can call that is located in Oklahoma. They can give you the direct answers you are looking for. I hope this will help you out. 1. Save Our Critters (D&M Sargent) 405-563-2681 Altus, OK 2. Ferret Contact (Louis Arnau) 405-796-2831 Lahoma, OK 3. Ferret Contact (Debbie McGuffin) 405-942-6024 Oklahoma City GOOD LUCK. Kimberly & Greg ( My kids: Ruby, Bongo, and Snickers) [Posted in FML issue 1042]