To Jim Makowski- It's just a minor point, but I thought I'd thrown in my $.02 worth here about shampoos. It's good that you don't want to use a shampoo that would irritate your little sock pirate's eyes, but tearless shampoos are just as irritating as the non-tearless type. The only difference is a small amount of anesthetic. I would advise you to just not bathe her any more than you have to, and to try to keep it out of her eyes. Chris and Scooter Bellingham, WA I am Ferret of Borg Bitter Apple is Irrelevant Litterboxes are Irrelevant Your Socks will be Assimilated [Posted in FML issue 1057]