Laura, sorry to hear about Charli. Things can only get better... re: The bleeding ferret... Buy some Quik-Stop. When you clip their nails, keep it and a Q-Tip close by. If the ferret starts bleeding, dip the Q-Tip in the Quick-Stop, and apply it to the wound. This will stop the bleeding in an instant. MF Ferrets... I have a MF ferret, and she is the cutest, bestest, smartest little thing you've ever seen. I'd even buy another (and plan on it)!! re: Loki I'm sure he'll pull through. Don't worry about it. Human/Ferret games: Feasel likes to wrestle, but I allow her so "bite" me. I say "bite" because she WON'T put any presure on my hand/finger/etc, but it is in her mouth. She also loves, tag and chase. Enrique: Feasel does the same thing. I have finaly "tied" down her cage so good that *I* can barly open it to let her out! Christian Miller Big Mill * Scribe 4.0 * Ok, last time... John 3:16-17 [Posted in FML issue 0658]