Hello Chris, and list, I'd like to have my subscription to the FML dropped for now. I am going on a business trip to England for three months, and my sysadmin probably wouldn't appreciate having my mail file fill up all that much while I am gone. ObFerret: I have discovered the ultimate ferret toy: drain tile. We are doing some construction on our house, and had a 8-foot length of black plastic corregated drain tile left over. It's used for drainage around foundations, and so on, and has lots of slits in it for (water) air & light. Weasel thinks this is just the best thing since the cats. He'll entertain himself for full MINUTES by going back and forth through this thing. Also, I can lift one end of it up onto a chair, and he'll climb through the tube, onto the chair, and then jump down onto the ground and repeat the process. It's a good ambush spot for him to hide, waiting for the odd passing feline, canine, or human...when you least expect it, TA-DAA, you have a ferret wrapped around your ankle. I know this stuff is really cheap, and you should be able to get it at any hardware store/building supply store. I rounded the cut ends so they don't have any sharp bits, and it doesn't look like he wants to eat the thing. Anyway, give that a shot! And it's been great getting the FML, I'll resubscribe once I return to the US, but at a different mail address, Chris. Thanks, and talk to you all later, Dave Hinz [log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 0583]