(Sorry, Chris - I accidently sent this to ferret-request too). Here's another update on the ferret virus, as well as a response to Nancy's question about the California legislation. Both from GENie again. They sure have been acive there all of a sudden. Bill ----- remainder forwarded from GEnie ----- Message 302 Tue Apr 06, 1993 P.GRANT6 [Pam/Pet Pals] at 21:44 EDT Regarding the virus: Yes, it is definitly a virus. what kind has not been pinned down, but then it really does not matter. I talked to Dr. Williams, the vet pathologist who is in DC and has been doing necropsies for me, Dr. Kawasaki, and a few other vets in the area. The database being built is becoming rather extensive. Anyway, Dr. Williams will be writing a formal statement regarding this virus by the end of the week for me. I'm not technically tuned enough to understand all the ins and outs, but basically, a virus can not be killed. All we can do is treat the secondary problems: diarhea, vomiting, dehydration, etc. The important thing is fluids, inside and if necessary, injected. Amoxi, cloromycetin, etc. will not stop the virus, just help with the runs and other afterproblems. Kepp the ferrets eating and drinking, and they will weather the virus. I would recommend any ferret having a spleen removed, or suffering from insulinoma be scratched from any upcoming show. My Scooter's post showed she has a beta cell tumor on her pancreas (which I was not aware of because she had not started to show any signs) and she died of pnemonia. actually, she died of the virus, but it was not what did her in. Ferrets which have overcome this bug should not have any relapses, but I am watching all litterboxes very carefuly. Everyone who thinks this virus could affect them, I suggest you stock up on the following in case you discovered problems on the weekend after the vet has closed: Pediolite (excuse my spelling, but you all know what I mean...) Sustacal, Ensure or some other high calorie liquid, Nutrical favorite dry cat food (in kitten variety if possible) syringe for liquid feedings heating pad non-alchohol children's cold medicine Things have stabalized in my house for now. I have been told that if I want this virus dead, I will have to cease taking in boarders and adoptees. Well, I can give up the first,but if I don't take the ferrets in, something worse than a virus may take them. So, since things are slow again right now, I'm hoping this virus does not have a terribly long life span once it can not find a host.... Keep you all posted. Pam ------------ Message 301 Tue Apr 06, 1993 DEFFBAM.MINN [R.S.Sellers] at 02:07 EDT The long and the short of it according to a conversation I had with Bill [Phillips] on Friday is that the Fish & Game people won a motion to have the complain ruled to be improper, however the CDFA people also won the right to file an ammended complaint so this represents only a delay of a few months and not a defeat. Bill seems to feel that they are succeeding in aggravating them to near the point of either giving up or doing something stupid. <when has anything they've done NOT been stupid??> [Posted in FML issue 0450]