With previous ferrets I've had the problem that they learned to get into the bathtub before they could get out of it. This week, Natasha learned to make the 60 cm jump while gaining 20 cm needed to get in from the laundry basket. Alison can get out, but not in. But none of them does this very often, only when they're strongly motivated. The late Ishtar never had any problems going either way, and she could climb up everywhere. Maybe they're just lazy? In that case I'll have problems the day they _really_ want to dig up my bonsai and other plants. Alison got stuck under a 70 ton boulder yesterday. There are lots of small rocks I let them crawl under as far as possible, but this one has a large crawlspace and I try to keep them from getting in too far. But with two to take care of, the attention strays sometimes. So there I was, with a ferret just out of reach in a narrow passage, holding the lead to prevent her from getting further. For some reason, she wouldn't come out that way, and pulling on the lead didn't work. Calling to her, I saw that she wanted to come out, so I just had to gamble and release the lead, and to my great fortune, she didn't go further in, but went around the blocking rocks and out through another exit. Clip her to the same lead as Natasha, disconnect and pull out the other. I've solved the problem with Natasha wanting to sleep in the litter box in the bathroom. I put a shoe box in there in another corner, and sure enough she went there straight from the litter box. Another good thing with it is that Alison likes it too, and isn't kicked out of it; so they sleep together more now. -- Urban Fredriksson [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 0456]