I just want to verify that the posting about Ferretone being an 8-in-1 product is correct (the poster was not sure). That same posting said that Ferretone has slightly more vitamin A. Actually, Ferretone has *MUCH* less vitamin A (something in the magnitude of 3 or 4 zeros difference). The old limits that were recommended for Linatone were primarily because of the extremely high vitamin A content. As for descenting, I have never known of a jill that smelled so bad that she really required descenting. On the other hand, many hobs that have been neutered may still have a fairly strong odor. That odor will hang on your clothes for hours. In that case, it may become a matter of necessity. You don't want to be on the same block with a whole male in season. ----------- "Cats may be cool, but Carpet Sharks rule!" John, Becky, Slinky, Godiva, Ninya, Arnie, Ivy, Sushi & Guenivere John Gaver ([log in to unmask]) [Posted in FML issue 0451]