Chris, I think you are doing a great job and I really appreciate all the information. I like the policy enforcement that keeps the mailing list on the subject. If anyone desires a more open format they can go to rec.pets. I just wish y'all could help me with my ferret's blind determination to run to the first floor landing to go to the bathroom when there is a litterbox right beside her on the second floor. All I have downstairs is a landing of about 4 ft. by 4 ft. !! Arghhh!! But, I guess no one can really totally control the little monsters. [That's certainly been our experience over the past 6 years...] Thanks again, Diane [Posted in FML issue 0333]