Sukie Thank you for your reply and insight into the problem we are having with Charlie and his obsession with cylindrical objects. Now that you have brought it to our attention it does seem like a sexual thing. When he does his thing he seems to have tunnel vision and a one track mind. He is determined to drag Carolyn behind the refrigerator where he takes every thing that is at all precious to him. We tried the cylindrical toy but as of today he is ignoring it. Washing his ears often seems to help, along with a good whack. Which brings up another question. Do ferrets seem to have a need to retaliate when they are scolded or when something is taken away from them ? Thanks again and I sure am glad to hear that Fritter is feeling better. I am not sure I could deal with all of that heartache. Phil Gentry 72701,[log in to unmask] [Posted in FML 0170]