Shron, I always order from ferretdepot.com. I don't even bother opening the other ferret stores. Steve Yarbrough has always been so supportive and goes out of his way to help. I suggest you try him for all of your needs and then consider getting the TF from either he or Liz all the time. -- Renee Downs "Eventually we will realize that if we destroy the ecosystem we destroy ourselves." Jonas Salk "The most effective way to do it, is to do it." Amelia Earhart It's amazing how much can be accomplished if nobody cares who gets the credit! Ferret Emergency Response, Rescue & Evacuation Team (F.E.R.R.E.T.) http://www.ferretemergency.org [Posted in FML 7758]