Suppositions, lies, intrigue...reads like a spy novel! I feel like I'm in the ferret CIA Twilight Zone. To Sara's AFA response, all I have to say is, gee all you had to do was ask. It would have maybe saved the AFA some time and money. Refer to my initial statement about me being an AFA member and trying to get it back for you. Also, I do have personal knowledge of where that LOGO originated from years ago. The AFA is still a non profit organization member run is it not? That said, yes I am fully aware of Trademark law as I have a US Trademark on my business name and just spent the last year with a Trademark attorney. If you feel the need to dance around and spend money, I say again, all you had to do was ask. But that's not the AFA's style now is it. Up till now I've tried, really tried, to be nice and stay away from all of the AFA craziness. And wow, all of the private emails I've gotten telling about how a person had a differing opinion from the AFA echelon and was subsequently booted out and discredited. One from a current AFA judge saying how they have to stay quiet or the people controlling the AFA will ruin them. Do we see a pattern here? Are others scared to voice this, yes. Just this week a person who had the guts to post about this on here was booted off the Ferret Breeder Network by the senior AFA judge that moderates it. Hmmm, here we go again. And....gee, no mention about calling animal control on me Sara? Hmmm, don't you live a few miles from me and have a fairly new boyfriend...hmmmm. So many people to boot out, so little time. Don't want anyone to lose their fear now do we. My real crime for years with the AFA is stepping in and asking them to stop bashing people as everyone has a right to an opinion and to run their lives in their own way. Kevin, I did just that on your behalf a year ago when your supposed friends were bashing you. In lieu of all of this, the AFA has helped me to make up my mind about where my loyalties should really be and with whom so I suppose I should thank them for that. My years of trying to "get along" with the nastiness has finally ended. NOW this is my last response to this on here. Nancy Park FerrettownUSA.com Ferretown.com "There is no objective truth, only the truth that's established by power' Michael Crichton [Posted in FML 7501]