Thank you Bonnie for all the info. I know firsthand all those long hours of hard work you personally and single-handedly put into dealing with the CDFG (that's CALIFORNIA Department of Fish and Game for those outside of California). I know all the bullshit she was required when dealing with these guys. the certainly did not make it easy for her but she pursued over and over again until they ran out of obstacles to through in her path. She was a bit 'condensed' in her post, but then it was just to let people in CA (California) know what is up and that she would be willing (even though she does not live in CA (California) and is very busy with her own ferret shelter) to help anyone who lives in CA (California) with ALL the needed info if they qualify and want to put in a whole lot of work into this. At that time, ALL the information will be spelled out. Bonnie has done a first-rate, quality job when she pursued this endeavor and won. No one else can say that they did it. I know I can't. She deserves a big 'Thank You' for all the ferret lives she has helped and/or saved. Thank you Bonnie from the bottom of my heart!!! As this is a CA (California) thing addressed to Californians, I think it is appropriate to use CA to mean California and not another country that would not be able to get a CA (California) Fish and Games permit. Let's not try to insult the person who has done great good for the ferret community. There is just too much of this 'bullying' here on the FML. Our concern is for the ferrets, not out egos. Thanks again Bonnie, Love You! Deva [Posted in FML 7446]