Lori, Lori Sies (et, al?) explained to me that they were forced to draw up a contract with Doug McKay in order for him to relinquish all ferrets to her. Part of that contract restricted rescuers from taking any images or publishing detailed accounts of the rescue. She or others who were actually there and read that contract can correct me if I am wrong about the specifics. Anyway, this is why there are no photos and videos all over the web of it. Thank GOD a few snuck in some shots of the wire cages and all that they were in, because to our astonishment, we were heartbroken to find so many people didn't believe the rescuers about cage sizes, etc and accused the rescuers of lying. They publicly argued it on the web, challenged them, and loudly broadcast that "they were there" on the farm grounds many times in the past and dimensions of the cages, how many ferrets per cage and so much more about the farm was lied about. This despite that VALUABLE video Mary Mewton put up on Youtube that clearly shows the conditions. You know how it goes ... it doenst' matter how many people rebutt or their reliability, what the public listens to is who is the loudest. Anyway, because of those shots that were secretly taken, and then privately shared with a few rescuers and people that denied some of what they were syaing, it was hard for naysayers onlookers that rescuers were lying about the urine-feces soaked and rusted tiny cages ferrets were housed in so cruelly. In fact, if it weren't for the photos visitors took and shared of the place prior to the rescue, and that heart wrenching video that was put together, that rescue may have never ever happened because of such denial of how bad conditions were there and because of the total lack of Ohio's animal protection laws. In any case, I have reached out asking about someone creating a web site many times after the rescue. I have and still offer to do any leg work, writing, collecting of photos, etc so that someone can create a web page/site. In that endeavor, I'd promise to be very discreet and delicate with any information, and to contact Lori Sies to discuss any restrictions so we don't step on any toes or get anyone in trouble. I am wondering if a contract has any sort of expiration under law. If so, that would make the job much easier. I think even now? There are plenty of DMK rescues still alive that could benefit from such a site. I think that a place of healing and celebration of those special little ones would really give adopters support. And it would do something else. It would prevent these little ones from being "forgotten". Right now? Outside of the U.S. online ferret community? No one knew of their existence or knows of their existence and when they pass on, outside of us ... no one will ever know their little paws touched the earth. Wolfy [Posted in FML 7393]