First let me state this is not about the Raw vs Kibble debate. Everyone will have their own opinion on that and rehashing it on the FML every 6 months just annoys everyone. This is about scientific study vs experience. IT IS NECESSARY TO DO SCIENTIFIC THE STUDY. Everyone on either side of the issue should be jumping up and down and promoting a study because an unbiased study shows the definitive facts. If your opinion is proven right great pat yourself on the back and say I told you so, if it makes you feel better. If your opinion is wrong stomp and complain and swear the study is flawed. Either way, right or wrong in your opinion, at least there is documented evidence of the effects. Only with a starting point can we move forward. Only with measured results can we verify improvement. Only with unbiased opinions can progress be gained. Please stop fighting about who is right and who is wrong and let an unbiased study answer the question. Just keep it off the FML where everyone has heard the same thing again, and again, and again, to the point where it drives people out of our community. Dang.... I tripped stepping off my soapbox and twisted my ankle... do I need cold press or hot press for that? Ken Nyren [Posted in FML 7353]