I recall Sandi's issue with Foxy and Dr. Johnson-Delaney, and remembered it being a number of years ago. I went to the FML Archives and the incident occurred in November of 2003!! That's a very long time to hold a grudge against anyone. It's a very long time for someone to wait for their chance to get revenge. Go to the Archives and search for Foxy using Sandi's email address (it hasn't changed) and you can read those posts. The fact is that none of us knows the truth about either incident. The pros and cons, the legal opinions, the moral opinions; none are necessary to this list. Those who keep posting and posting about it are just keeping it alive. We all like to be experts. None of us are. And every situation is different. There is no mold. Can we count how many vets we have run off this list? Are there even any still participating? I occasionally use the skills of a top-notch ferret vet who is about 150 miles from me. She is one of the most skilled and best ferret vets out there. She used to be very active on ferret lists, this one included. She removed herself from the ferret lists many years ago because of personal attacks. This community has lost the knowledge she provided, the protocols, the studies she has done. Only those of us who are her clients benefit from her vast knowledge. Would you participate in a community who endlessly discussed you when you had a problem, or attacked you? I will be surprised if Dr. J-D will react any differently after this is over. It seems we never learn. Katharine Florida [Moderator's note: I was waiting for one more person who really wanted to post a note of suport for Dr. Johnson-Delaney but looks like the person has decided not to post. I think we've had a chance to express our opinions about the subject and it's time to move on. I don't think we're going to determine much more at this point. BIG] [Posted in FML 7157]