I also have a pretty laid back group of ferrets. There is never too much trouble integrating a newby. It wasn't always that way, and something you said in your original post struck a note with me. Did you say your new baby is white? Is he possibly deaf, or very hard of hearing? I find that deaf ferrets are very vocal and when a scuffle breaks out it sounds like someone is being murdered, when a deaf ferret is involved. I have 2 deaf ferrets right now, both DEW, and even in energetic play, there is lots of noise. When Fara (DEW) was being introduced to the group, she would chase another ferret grab them by the neck and scream. You are doing the right thing by letting them duke it out a while. They have to establish the pecking order. It is funny to see my tiny little Sami ( sable), around one pound, let every one know she is the Queen. The only time I step in is if one is older and maybe a bit frail or very young and hasn't learned how to defend themselves yet. The young ones can usually outrun the one that is after them anyway. It is too bad you have to cage them together at this point, I think the extension on the cage would be a good idea. How many ferrets do you have, and it it a ferret nation cage. It is always good to have a separate cage or section anyway, to use as a sick cage. Good luck, and be patient. One day you will find them all cuddled together. -- Pat BAby Everything will be alright in the end! If it's not alright, it's not the end. [Posted in FML 7088]