They still have some with robust builds (the biological term) which some in ferret judging seem to call "bulldog" builds, and some with gracile builds (the biological term) which some in ferret judging seem to call "whippet" builds. Those biological terms both refer to the ferrets' frames. Now, it is possible to have heftier ferrets which slight builds but that usually involves a problem. The ferrets may not be an active as they should be at their caloric intake, or their blood glucose is low enough to make them less active, or they have fluid build up from heart disease or heart parasites which is making them look large while also making them lethargic (and such parasites could affect more than one animal in a household at the same time), or some other problem exists. Are the ferrets acting this way getting preventive medications for heartworms? Heartworms exist in many continents, usually more frequently in the warm locations, though they are found in temperate regions with actual cold winters as well. Sukie (not a vet) Recommended ferret health links: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ferrethealth/ http://ferrethealth.org/archive/ http://www.afip.org/ferrets/index.html http://www.miamiferret.org/ http://www.ferrethealth.msu.edu/ http://www.ferretcongress.org/ http://www.trifl.org/index.shtml http://homepage.mac.com/sukie/sukiesferretlinks.html all ferret topics: http://listserv.ferretmailinglist.org/archives/ferret-search.html "All hail the procrastinators for they shall rule the world tomorrow." (2010, Steve Crandall) On change for its own sake: "You can go really fast if you just jump off the cliff." (2010, Steve Crandall) [Posted in FML 7027]