I was at Bob Church's lecture at the 2007 International Ferret Symposium, as I have been at every IFC event since it's inception. My recollection of Bob's comments on kibble and dental disease are identical to Danee Devore's. I took special note of it at the time because it was counter to what Bob had previously said. He said that he could find no proof that a kibble diet resulted in dental disease. He defined disease as different from simple excessive dental enamel wear, which was present in kibble eaters. Bob may have changed his mind since; he is welcome to do so. But I believe Danee's post was accurate. Linda [Posted in FML 6889]